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Hublot and its bad reputation.

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    As title suggests, it seems to me that Hublot has garnered quite a bit of a bad reputation especially on social media. Having started horology relatively late, I'm actually still pretty clueless on how this negativity formed.

    What's your opinion in how this came to be? And how do you see Hublot as a brand?
    Be as honest and brutal as you can.
     
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    I think hublot is a case study of marketing ingenuity in itself. They created strong desire for their product without creating an actually superior one. Some might call this a gimmick. I understand that many purists dislike the brand but I for one think the market has a place for a watchmaker of this genre, but maybe a little overpriced.
     
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    Yeah I do agree it does feel overpriced at brand new prices, but at second hand price I think they're pretty good buys. Then again value is relative to every individual.
     
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    You have to give Hublot credit for being the upstart which, through savvy marketing, has in a short time positioned the Big Bang as a contender (although purists may argue that they are like night and day) to the vaunted Royal Oak.

    I think the bad reputation came about because of the seemingly exorbitant prices they charge for timepieces powered by stock movements. The overly blingy endorsements and endless limited editions may not go down well with some too.

    I agree that at pre-owned prices there are bargains to be found, but I think the damage is done. Even if one were offered to me at a steal, I'd probably give it a miss because of the reputation. I'd top up the difference and get an RO every time.

    Too harsh? Well, you did say something about being savage :D
     
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    Haha no worries man, no offense taken. I'm not a fanatic of Hublot but I dont dislike it either.

    I had absolutely no idea about the position about the position it tried to attain being a rival to the Royal Oak. I know it has its similarities to the Royal Oak, But I thought the two are pretty much in their own different class especially since Hublot, I feel, Is more of a fashion brand due to the lack of high end finishing and history.

    Indeed the ones that are still powered by stock movements is insane, But the newer in house ones I thought was actually pretty stylish with a skeleton-ish movement.

    I do agree that the endorsements and bling factor are too much, but I do like the aesthetics of their other watches especially their unico line, alarm and meca-10. The Price however is an entirely different story.

    Another thing that annoys me though is their use of "limited editions". When everything is limited edition, nothing is.:p

    Speaking of Fashion brands, I've always wondered..Richard Mille is quite similar to Hublot (I think) but is it just me or do you feel there is much less negativity to RM than Hublot?
     
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    I actually think Richard Mille is under fire even more than Hublot. The looks are even more over the top, prices are crazier and has an even stronger cult following (amongst those who can afford them).

    Good point about too many limited editions, there are hardy any limited edition hublot timepiece that commands premium. Even the resale price gap between different material variants are not as significant as other brands (ceramic vs steel etc.).

    On the plus side, hublot timepieces are in pretty high demand. That means they have liquidity and hold their value relatively well as compared to other brands (albeit high discounts typically offered for brand new). It's still pretty remarkable how JC Biver has turned hublot around, from a dying house to a global powerhouse brand, coveted by WIS and non-WIS alike.
     
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    I believe that there will be a small group of people/fans/worshipers who believe certain concepts should stay their to its own value based on what they feel or what they interpreted it to be as. These people tend to be the loudest (like protesters) and so brands like Hublot, naturally, seem to garner a lot of bad reputation when actually in the market a lot of watch enthusiast or consumers are very happy with what they have. I believe this bad reputations lays about on many other brands that rely heavily on marketing.

    Personally i agree that Hublot is a marketing ingenuity in itself. Sevenfriday is worth mentioning as well in this category, though not on the same price range. They all have their own concepts and style which suits the different taste within the market. And i agree that Hublot's high demand does provide the liquidity and value above many other brands, which is the result of their marketing efforts.

    For the brand itself, I love some of their designs, both bold and elegant in their own way (Classic Fusions and Big Bang series). I especially love their blue dial classic fusions, simple with such presence. Price point i think at a pre-own value is comfortable for me but not brand new given the depreciation, which I feel the large discounts that ADs give for Hublots does damage its value point. I would rather they price it lower like 8k then give a 10% discount at best instead of pricing it at 10k then give a 30% at 7k (I maybe wrong in terms of pricing strategy but it does affect the value IMO).
     
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